it ended up hurting our economy in other areas. so, the reality is the best way to get gas prices lower is to have a reliable source of energy, and that is what this sands provide the united states, billions of barrels of oil barely above our border. host: relating to the price of gas, bill writes in and ask whether the keystone xl pipeline -- would bring gas down to $2 a gallon? he says, is not, we want no part of it. guest: really? the answer is, it gives us the security. it will have a small impact at the pump. some say it will add more -- if you just think of basic economics, having a reliable source steady would actually lower it a few cents. but if you are looking at $1 decrease because of this, there is no silver bullet like that out there. but it does provide as the energy security that we do not have when we are so reliant on opec. host: stephen from laurel, maryland, on the democrats' line. caller: thank you for c-span. from my understanding on the previous discussion about the keystone xl, the last congressional session,